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What is > this? Will it > be the next big thing? Tata > Motors of India thinks so. What > will the Oil Companies do to stop it?It is an auto engine that > runs on air. That's > right; air not gas or diesel or electric but just the air around > us. Take a look.Tata Motors of India has scheduled the Air Car > to hit Indian streets by August 2012The Air Car, developed by > ex-Formula One > engineer Guy N. For Luxembourg-based MDI, uses compressed air to > push its engine's pistons and make the car go.The Air Car, > called the "Mini CAT" could cost around 365,757 rupees in > India or $8,177 > US.The Mini CAT which is a simple, light urban car, > with a tubular chassis, a body of fiberglass that is glued not > welded and powered by compressed air. A Microprocessor is used to > control all electrical functions of the car. One tiny radio > transmitter sends instructions to the lights, turn signals and > every other electrical device on the car. Which are not > many.The temperature of the clean air expelled by the > exhaust pipe is between 0-15 degrees below zero, which makes it > suitable for use by the internal air conditioning system > with no need for gases or loss of power.There are no > keys, just an access card which can be read by the car from your > pocket. According to the designers, it costs less than 50 rupees > per 100 KM, that's about a tenth the cost of a car running on > gas. > It's mileage is about double that of the most advanced electric > car, a factor which makes it a perfect choice for city motorists. > The car has a top speed of 105 KM per hour or 60 mph and would > have a range of around 300 km or 185 miles between refuels. > Refilling the car will take place at adapted gas stations > with special air compressors. A fill up will only take two > to three minutes and costs approximately 100 rupees and the > car will be ready to go another 300 kilometers.This car > can also be filled at home with it's on board compressor. It will > take 3-4 hours to refill the tank, but it can be done while you > sleep. Because there is no combustion engine, changing > the 1 liter of vegetable oil is only necessary every 50,000 > KM or 30,000 miles. Due to its simplicity, there is very little > maintenance to be done on this car.This Air Car almost > sounds too good to be true. We'll see in August. > 2012 This car was introduced years and years ago, where the hell is it? > I've seen this ad going around for years... > Where oh where is it? > LT Hi Lan, > My guess is the big three and the oil > companies found a way to bury it......Do you have any idea what the > technology would do to the energy and auto industries? > Best > JC Thanks Lan.I did however see a guy in Ohio on a farm who developed a motor that runs on water.(hydrogen)..Dont remember where I saw it. Best JC > Air powered cars have been around forever, they don't have enough power or > air tank storage to make them viable; tthis thing is no threat to the oil > companies. > LT BYU invented a car that ran on water back in 1982 too, said it was going to revolutionize the world!  Um, hmm, we still have not solved the hydrogen problem.  Too volatile, too difficult to extract.  I've seen several countries try to harness it, but as of yet, still in the testing mode.  Problem is it takes as much or more energy to extract the hydrogen than what it's worth.  Same as making gas from corn; it takes a gallon and a half of diesel fuel to make one gallon of corn based gasoline.  Hmm, where's the sense in that? My brother is a machanical engineer who works for the Idaho National Laboratory, and has been working on a Liquified Natural Gas solution, where they have gas liquifiers small enough to fit on the bed of a diesel truck; unfortunately, the funding was coming from PG&E.  Hmm, I wonder why that project dried up? LT I always enjoy reading article from that magazine "The perpetual Cynic".........but thanks for the information JC What a roll reversal, usually you're the cynic. What happened to "Drill Baby Drill!!!" LT What happened to logic?? The pipeline from Canada to Oklahoma and then to the gulf was disapproved by Yomama but he did approve the section from Oklahoma. what good is that if the oil is needed from Canada?? So Drill baby Drill not applicable....for now.....Is it still true that we have more oil in the Dakotas and Montana than in all of the Middle East?? Just curious....and don't both telling me that we could have been drilling throughout the Bush years as well....I know..... JC Take a look at this map, attached, each blue dot is an active drill rig in the gulf of Mexico, it's taken 50 years to get all those rigs up and running, you're not going to get that kind of production out of the Dakotas and Montana until that number of rigs can be installed. I did not know that... The other problem is that although there is more oil in the Dakotas and Montana than there is in all of the Middle East, it's not close to the surface, like it is in the Middle East, it is way, way, way down deep, requiring special technology that for the most part has not even been developed yet, which is the biggest barrier to putting up rigs, has nothing to do with Obama scare. On another note, are you aware of why Obama asked for a better environmental study on the pipeline for oil from Canada?  Do you even know?  I have no idea The Canadian oil is so thick, so goopy, and such a rotten grade of oil, that it won't even flow down the pipeline.  So, do you know what they have to do to get it to go down the pipeline?  They have to mix it with highly toxic chemicals (which they refuse to tell anyone what the chemical mixture actually is.)  Then, what are they going to do with all those chemicals, down at the refinery, once they get the oil down there, and have to remove it from the oil so they can refine it?  The refineries, currently have no mechanism to handle all those toxic chemicals, and don't have any plan on how to dispose of them, which is why Obama wants to delay the pipeline, until they have a plan in place to handle that nightmare.  Then it would seem like a good idea......then why the pipeline approved from Oklahoma to the Gulf??? I was thinking of the Canadian Oil and what good is it if it stays in Canada or goes to China and therefore the Oklahoma to the Gulf pipeline is useless?? Sounds logical to me, unless you want to just dump all those chemicals in your back yard. Thanks....but no thanks.... LT I think the pipeline will eventually get approved all the way to Canada, Obama wants to approve it, he just wants to make sure the refineries have a plan in place to handle the chemo dumps first.  No reason to stop the continued manufacturing of the pipeline up to Oklahoma, (jobs) where a major storage field of US oil reserves reside, and are bottlenecked at getting out of Oklahoma and down to the refineries.  This oil is already US oil, and flowing through pipelines just fine, we just need a bigger pipe up there. (Work on that for now, while the oil companies get all their ducks in a row to handle the chemo dump from Canada, once that's handled, then go ahead and extend the pipeline up to Canada...no reason to stop all US progress and production, just because Canada's oil stinks.) Let them send Canada's oil to China, who cares?  You know as well as I do that the US refineries are running at 95-98% capacity now as it is, and China needs oil too, and because oil is a world wide commodity, you should know that better than anyone, where the oil is refined is not relevant, other than jobs, it's not like we have US oil prices, and Saudi oil prices, and South American oil prices, we have one world price for oil, no matter where it comes from. If the Chinese are willing to take the stinky rotten oil from Canada, full of yuky chemicals, boohaa!  Let them have it, let them stink up and destroy their own environment with all those nasty chemicals, it's not going to hurt us one bit. The argument that, "Oh no!!! Canada's oil is going to go over to China!" is a false premise, China is going to get oil from somewhere, and the world market is where everyone, including the US goes for their oil, what part of the world it comes from is pretty much a moot point.  I guess we could take Canada's oil, refine it here, and deal with all the rotten side effects, or we can take oil from Saudi Ariabia, where it's nice clean "light sweet crude" which is way easier to refine, and doesn't have as bad of an envirnmental impact.  Either way, the oil is going to get used up, by us, china, or whoever, it just depends on who gets to refine the nice sweet crude, or the shitty ass dirty chemo crude; which would you prefer? LT Lan, You seem to know quite a bit about where the oil is and the quality, much more than I. However, what about Anwar and the North Slope of Alaska. From what i understand Democrats dont seem to want to displace any eskimos or polar bears from Anwar. I don't recall you having visited there on your vacation, I know I haven't nor plan to.....Anywhere, somewhere along the line, is the answer to controlling the problem with the Middle East oil and telling them, related to our grain, eat your oil..... JC True, they need our food, we need their oil, hopefully that keeps us out of war. Alaska oil?  I don't see a problem with drilling up there, the Alaska people certainly want it, they need the jobs, but one argument is that it's also being held as a "known reserve" for future use, to hand down to our children.  If we can't figure out a way to go green, and figure out some alternative energy source, we're going to be forced to dip into our own oil reserves that we're trying to conserve for future generations. We figure it's better to use up the foreign oil first, before we dip into our own reserves, while trying to figure out alternative fuel options, because in the future, things will get even way more unstable as the oil runs out, if there are no alternatives, so we'll need our own oil way worse at that point than we do now...plan for the future somewhat.  Who could have thought that we could actually have a little foresight? Becasue there are so many, who could actually care less about future generations, or having some kind of energy plan, and are only interested in their own personal agenda's for today, it's difficult for those people who want to have a long-term energy plan to LT Lan, Do you think for one minute the greedy politicians are concerned with your program of using up foreign oil before dipping into Anwar? Also what about the north slope of Alaska where the oil is going to china or japan? As a conservative i believe in "me first" attitude and if we have oil production already for years out of Alaska how about letting China and Japan "use up" the foreign oil, especially China where they veto all our proposals for sanctions on Iran and North Korea and then they get our Alaskan oil?? I don't think so. If they want Alaskan oil, how about they go along with us on sanctions for those "terrorist supplied" countries? We wont be agreeing on this topic.... Best JC True, they need our food, we need their oil, hopefully that keeps us out of war. Alaska oil? I don't see a problem with drilling up there, the Alaska people certainly want it, they need the jobs, but one argument is that it's also being held as a "known reserve" for future use, to hand down to our children. If we can't figure out a way to go green, and figure out some alternative energy source, we're going to be forced to dip into our own oil reserves that we're trying to conserve for future generations. We figure it's better to use up the foreign oil first, before we dip into our own reserves, while trying to figure out alternative fuel options, because in the future, things will get even way more unstable as the oil runs out, if there are no alternatives, so we'll need our own oil way worse at that point than we do now...plan for the future somewhat. Who could have thought that we could actually have a little foresight? Becasue there are so many, who could actually care less about future generations, or having some kind of energy plan, and are only interested in their own personal agenda's for today, it's difficult for those people who want to have a long-term energy plan to LT